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I dont leave comments a lot, but this game is an exception. I know this game is NSFW and that appeals to people. However, this story is so much more than that. The scenes are great and they are well planned to make intrests and kinks inclusive. Yet the character arcs for each of the girls are amazing. I typically read through whats written to just get the scenes, but something is lost when approaching this game that way. So much love and attention is put into the characters. No matter what you're facing in life, you will find a character to relate to. I love Ashley and Maria specifically. I personally have attachment issues and self esteem issues that stem from my childhood, and I can relate so well with the characters and how they are written.  thank you. I haven't cried in years and I never allowed myself to truly be vulnerable, but I felt like I could when relating to the characters. That it was ok to be me. So if you are thinking of playing this game and haven't yet, try it. It may surprise you.

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Thank you so much :) I'm glad it has helped you

it is awesome

I have an issue when trying to transfer android save to pc 

when I try to load the save : https://pastebin.com/BW8rBYWx

Please help I want to play on a bigger screen.

At what point do you get that error? Have you checked you installed the game correctly on PC? Any errors during download? Downloaded file is complete and intact? Does the game start and you can save and load on PC?

Yeah I installed the game and it starts perfectly fine on a clean save but when ii put my android save in "%appdata%/Renpy/Harem Hotel/saves" it appears in game and even has the preview but when I try to load it it crashes. I really don't understand why wouldn't it work since its the same game, maybe it has to do with the renpy version difference. I tried debugging myself but didn't understand most of the crash dump. 

I don't know enough to tell you why, but for some reason, renpy changes the saves somehow and for that reason saves can be transferred Android to PC but not the other way around

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you mean pc to android but not otherwise?

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really looking forward to that update...keep up the good work...good game!

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Thank you :)

I left this as a rating, but I will also leave it as a comment here because I'm not sure where/if you can see the reviews people leave for games on itch.

I cannot believe I made an account specifically to review a porn game, but here we are. Here's the long and short of it: Harem Hotel is a visual novel, it has lots sexy girls you can fuck, the sex is animated and looks pretty good, and if that's all you care about then you'll probably like it. Okay, now to the more critical part of this review. I'll try to keep this brief because, well, it's a review of a porn game.

First, let me mention the size of this thing. Frankly, it takes up way too much space on my hard drive, thanks to all those renders and animations and such. If I were the dev, I'd focus on reducing the disk space it requires before working on adding any new content. As far as content goes, the main appeal here, the sexual content, is pretty good. There are a variety of hot girls who appeal to different interests and fetishes and whatever. I must say, though, I hate looking at the player character. His hair makes him look like an aging Italian gangster. Also, while the game mostly lets you opt out of fetishes you're not interested in (including, in quite a rare occurrence for this genre of game, anal sex), there's at least one instance where public urination (which, given how many times it shows up in this game, I suspect is the dev's personal fetish) is shown with no warning and no way of opting out beforehand.

While the game delivers a lot of sexy situations, the writing is pretty subpar (although for a porn game it's probably better than average). The story--you inherit your grandfather's hotel (which is functionally more like an apartment building) and move to the country it's in to take over the business--isn't anything special, and nothing about the way any of the characters (let alone the POV character) interact with the story and the world makes anything feel interesting or gripping. There are a few moments that shine among the otherwise mostly one-note and tropey character arcs, but these are few and far between. The player character has the personality of a cardboard box. It's a shame the writing isn't better, because the dev clearly put some effort into the worldbuilding. What I don't understand is why someone would go to the trouble of creating a world like this, and then making the story so unoriginal and pretty much incidental to the key facts of the world it's set in. Here's where I get into my main criticism of the writing: this game's treatment of slavery. First, I want to clarify that this has nothing to do with political correctness or whatever. It's fine to put slavery in your porn game, and I don't think anyone is going to play this game and suddenly decide that they're in favor of slavery. No, my issue is that from a story and game design perspective, this game fails at delivering the player a coherent experience when it comes to the way they interact with the setting and with the presence of slavery in that setting. The lore of this setting (which is actually pretty interesting) is that it takes place on a continent that is the homeland of the elves, but which was brutally colonized by humans, and in which elves are an oppressed slave underclass. The game repeatedly makes a point of showing us the cruelty and inhumanity of this society, and several characters openly criticize the racist ideology that the humans use to justify their continued subjugation of elves. We see elves being mistreated, being called animals (even though they're clearly just as intelligent as humans), being left hungry on the street. We see humans with some elven ancestry being discriminated against. The player character, though, can at best be described as indifferent. 

It's worth noting here that this is not one of those games where the player takes the role of an explicitly awful person. The player character is no saint, and he has zero personality whatsoever, but I get the sense that he's meant to be a reasonably nice guy who genuinely cares for the people around him, at least a little (for example, in one scene, after volunteering with a priestess to hand out food to the poor and seeing her turn away some hungry people, he goes back afterwards to give food to the people who had been turned away). Add the fact that he's an immigrant from a country without slavery, and I think it's unreasonable that the player isn't really given the option to be firmly anti-slavery. I don't think the game should force the player into this role (again,  this is a porn game, and if you want a slave harem, then go for it), but I also think it's completely immersion-breaking that this character from a non-slaveholding society who moves to a slaveholding society, observes it injustices, and is immediately bequeathed a slave, seems totally unconcerned and is not put off at all. 

In one scene, a character (rightly) criticizes the player character for owning a slave, and she's told off for being judgmental by the slave (Lin) and the player character! This is completely ridiculous and totally incongruous with the general way in which the game portrays slavery as a deeply cruel and unjust institution, and with the way that Lin herself has experienced a traumatic life due to being an enslaved elf! It doesn't matter how nice of a slavemaster the player character is; he is still a willing participant in the institution of slavery. And hey, fine, if you want to have your player character be a willing slaveholder, then go for it, but at least have the courage to portray him as a bad guy and not as this mythical enlightened, benevolent slaver. Seriously, for pete's sake, if you're gonna make the injustices of society a centerpiece of a story, the protagonist should have the ability to actively oppose them (and, conversely, to really lean into the oppressor role). Instead, our absolute empty shell of a player character experiences some mild culture shock and shrugs. I just do not understand how you can go to all the trouble of worldbuilding and then fall so flat when it comes to actually telling a story within the setting.

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Thanks for the review and the feedback :)

I want to say, HH has never been a porn game. I have always advertised it as an adult visual novel. My focus is mainly on the story rather than the sex, but I understand where you're coming from. 

The original filesize of HH is about 100GB. It is a massive game with dozens of hours of content. I have already reduced the filesize by nearly 90%

I'm not sure which unavoidable pee scene you're talking about. I would like every instance of sex to be optional. Pee scenes only occur three times I think? It's not a fetish of mine lol

As for the player character, he is meant to be a self insert. He is not the main character, he is you. Your opinions are his, which is why he is so silent in the story and much of his dialogue is left to your choices. The focus of this game is on each of the main heroines. But I understand if you want more dialogue options to express your opinions, and this is something I would love to get feedback and suggestions on.

You must understand, this is a world much more similar to colonial america regarding this context specifically. In most of human history, unfortunately, slavery was fairly common and people didn't really care too much. Unless it personally affected them of course. The PC comes from a world where there are billions of slaves, this is his normal. This is why he starts indifferent about slavery, but through experiencing each Main Character's story, he begins to sympathize with their issues. Starting from a place of indifference allows the player to watch as his opinions shift as he (and you) personally sees why it's bad. You already hold the firm opinion that slavery is bad, but considering there are more slaves now than ever in human history (I'm talking real life stats), the point hasn't come across to everyone yet. The PC has been anti slavery for a few years now (IRL time). Maybe since around v0.14? But I totally understand the desire to express those opinions early on, maybe this is something I can add!

Regarding your last paragraph, I do believe you misunderstood my intention. The PC is not a willing participant in slavery. He inherited his grandfather's estate, which came with a slave. He didn't even know he was getting a slave before he got the hotel. There is no option to free a slave in his world (yet), so the only options are to keep Lin, or sell her. Because the PC is not a slaver, Lin realizes the amazing deal she found herself in, considering all possibilities. In a perfect world, both Lin and the PC do not want slavery at all, this is their main theme after all. So it becomes a complex situation where the good guys are forced to play by the rules until they break those rules. If the scene you're mentioning is the one I'm thinking of, where Vanessa yells at the PC for being a slaver, you bring up great points. Vanessa sees it the same way as you've been shown, slavers cause abuse, no slavers are good, the world would be better without them. I totally agree, it's why I wrote her to be this way. I intentionally wrote the world to be such that if you are participating in it, you automatically become a worse person. This is how corrupt this government is. Want to buy something? It was made by slaves. Food? Made by slaves. That car? That road? All slaves. What makes the PC so special, and what Vanessa doesn't understand at first, is that the PC does not treat Lin like a slave. He actively breaks the law with her, simply by refusing to put a chain on her in public. He's willing to eat a hefty fine for this symbolic gesture. Later in the story, they realize they can do the same thing to save Lin's sister. Then her friends. Then more elves. He begins to participate in buying slaves, but he does not use them. Unless you choose the slave route specifically, the PC gives them the freedom to do what they want whenever they want. Now, in v0.18 and beyond, the PC is heavily involved in anti slavery movements.

Thanks for the reply! This is a pretty well thought-out response, which I appreciate, because I was a bit harsh in my review. You have clearly put a lot of effort into this project, which I respect. Admittedly, I have only played through a few hours of content, so I guess I haven't really gotten to any of the newer anti-slavery content you describe.

Regarding the pee scene, I believe it was one of the park scenes from exploring the town. Not technically unavoidable in that you don't have to trigger it, but there's no indication beforehand that it's going to involve urination.

As far as the slavery content: my concern is that early on, the PC's apparent indifference doesn't come across as a result of a natural consequence of living in a world where slavery is common or permitted (which would make complete sense if he had grown up in the country), but as a weird non-reaction to something that should be foreign and probably disturbing to him. You'd be the lore expert, not me, but I believe it's mentioned that slavery isn't practiced where he came from. And given that it's pretty early in the story that the PC is able to encounter the consequences of slavery and anti-elvish racism in this new setting he finds himself in. You compare the setting to colonial America. It was often foreigners, like English or French visitors or immigrants after the practice of slavery had been abolished in their homelands, or northerners who were not immersed in the slave culture, who would go to the American South and become horrified and radicalized against slavery. Anyway, insofar as you have added more content where the PC becomes anti-slavery, I'm glad to hear about it, but I really do think that there should be more ability to express such an opinion early on.

This is a bit disconnected, but I'd like to offer you a bit of praise for something I liked: early on, when Lin asked what she should call me, I just typed in the name I had given my character, and she specifically acknowledged that I was asking her to just call me by my name and not "Master" or something. This was good for immersion, and I'm glad you specifically implemented a check for if the player uses the name given to the PC.

Anyway, regarding the scene with Vanessa criticizing the PC, I think that by the point in the story at which it occurs (or at least by the point at which I encountered it), the PC has not yet earned his anti-slavery bona fides and thus does not deserve for the scene to be resolved in his favor with Vanessa being told off. The most I could say for him at that point was that he's been nice to Lin, has not forced her to do anything she doesn't want to, and has not made her wear a collar. You say doesn't treat Lin like a slave; I think whether that's true depends on whether he's paying her for her labor, and I don't think that's explicitly addressed in the game at that point. My point here is that this creates a bizarre thematic tension: the game keeps showing us that slavery is bad, but in this moment the PC, who up to this point has not really done anything to indicate feelings on the matter beyond perhaps mild disapproval, seems to be held up as a good person not just despite owning a slave, but actually good in his capacity as a slaveowner. If his response to Vanessa was to express that he, too, is anti-slavery, that he only owns a slave due to circumstance, and that he treats Lin as a free individual to the fullest possible extent, this would be thematically coherent, but this can't really happen, because by this point he hasn't really been shown to have these convictions or to take action on them. On the other hand, if the situation were to resolve with Vanessa's words actually affecting him and making him think twice about his place in this society, this would also be thematically coherent and would probably be a pretty powerful moment. As it stands, though, the scene gives off the impression that Vanessa is wrong to criticize PC because, although slavery is bad in general, PC is a nice slaver, as though the real problem with institutionalized ownership of people is that most people don't do it kindly enough.

Like I said above, though, I'm glad to hear that the PC is able to take a more explicit anti-slavery stance later on in the story. Knowing this, I will likely continue playing so that I can see some of this content. I was getting a bit frustrated with PC's apparent apathy.

My count of pee scenes:

  1. Kate, jogging.  Avoidable (Peek/Don't peek)
  2. Maria event @beach (no warning?)
  3. Sylvia [slave route] Kitchen, repeatable, avoidable (don't choose from menu)
  4. unnamed streamer in park?  (no warning?  not avoidable?)
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more ball gag

Lol omg

the games is very good I do wish there were was some VA but either way the game is still good 

When will pregnancy be added?

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It is a VERY good game, it is the first VN that hooks me for hours and hours. I tried several times to support by donating through Patreon monthly and my card was rejected, it must be due to Nationality.

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Thank you so much! Tips are also accepted here and on SubscribeStar :)

third time ive played all the way through the story over the past few years and enjoy it every time! one thing ive noticed though is that not all of the minor characters you meet always remember you. for instance, the african american girl at bowling remembers you every time you see her elsewhere in the story whereas the saints dont remember you when you go to church with Autumn even if youve completed the city content. 


also, there are some lewd activities with Emma and Pixel that are able to be unlocked before they are supposed to. this is probably a side effect of buying all available outfits before reaching those points in the story in Emma's case and for Pixel her outfits are unlocked before you buy them when dewing lewd things in her room,


want to reiterate that i always love coming back to this game and truly appreciate all the hard work since ive last played!

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Thank you :)

Regarding memory, this can perhaps be explained by some having better memory than others, it's a natural thing. But if there are blatant mistakes, I would fix those.

Can you make a bug report and post it on discord? That's where I go to fix up all the bugs that people find during bug fix days.

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可以翻译成中文吗

There's already Chinese in the game.

What controls should I use for mobile? I can't close the tutorial because of the controls I've been given

do you have a link to chill city id love to listen to it outside of the game

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the only bad thing I have to say is that the animations are not the best, I understand there is a limit to people's skills/willingness to put that much time into it. but more detail would be much appreciated, especially making the dick not just no-clip into the girl's body would be nice! again though, the story is compelling, and this is one of only three games on itch that I have been consistently coming back to, one of others being MIST by 395 games, his thing is a damn masterpiece so I won't compare the two, especially since yours is free (his was free throughout development but he decided to swap it to paid a week after the final update for some reason). And mur mur, which is also pretty good, I's say they both outshine this game in terms of graphics, but the story in this game keeps me coming back, improving the quality of the graphics and animations will go a long way, but again I understand it's your game and respect your decision no matter what you do :) congrats on making a good game and cheers to many good years.

P.S. 

Although kali was my favorite girl, this particular line of Ashley's made me feel like I wasn't the only one who felt that way, the line is:
...Sometimes I feel like I'm putting on a mask so that people can't see the real me... do you know what I mean? and never, ever in my life have I ever picked a dialogue option with 100% certainty. I do know how that feels, and that entire scene in the clock tower was masterfully crafted. thanks Runey, for all the times, the good, the bad, and the steamy.

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Thank you :) Animations are severely limited to the engine I use unfortunately.

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What engine do you use? 

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The game engine is Ren'Py, the graphics are from Honey Select

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Thanks for the reply. I’ve been considering creating something. 

ahh, that's too bad.

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ahh, yeah the other game I saw used blender and substance painter and designer, might be worth looking at for your next project. would be more work but might bring the quality up a lot!

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Definitely! I started HH with no money. My next project will actually have a budget.

that will be fun to see! I assume it will be paid then?

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A bar, lost in middle of nowhere works well enough to pay for the hotel, the babes and MC ?     Something shadowy is going on there.

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America has a lot of places like this, not so much elsewhere though. Specifically I mean popular locations regardless of the shitty location people have to drive 40 minutes to get to.

Hi there based on the download it said Pc/Android so i was wondering how do you download the android one cause i tried downloading it and i was met with a downloaded zip file once i open in up it said "Harem_Hotel-v0.17.2-pc" so i dont know what to do next

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Here are the official instructions.

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An absolute masterpiece. 10/10 

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Thank you :)

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Heck yeah bro! It's great so far. looking forward to more from you.

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Is the game finished or does still updates come?  Great game so far btw

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Still in development! Just overwhelmed with personal stuff

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hi,i have some questions ,goes as follows

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

so what should i do to solve the problem,thanks!


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I need to know what the exception that occurred was.

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Hi, It seems for I can't sleep with any girl other than lin and android. Characters such as maria have the in love trait but they don't show up.(Deleted the last one by accident)

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Continue the story, there's likely a reason for it.

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Very good game that has kept me addicted for a long time, looking forward to new updates :)

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Thank you :)

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It's an amazing game, really. Can't wait for newer updates! I can't wait for the pregnancy update and more scenes with footjob scenes (WIth and without stockings).

So far it's my favorite game.

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Thank you so much!

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Hi, I need help to advance Maria's story. It turns out that I have already completed the stories of the other girls, but I can't get past Maria's level 30. Does anyone know of a solution?

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That is a known bug. Find the previous discussions on this comments thread.

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Go to the discord, and ask the folks there. They got an easy fix (you just need to unzip a file into the game folder).

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will ashley ever get her dream? with the mc

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When will pregnancy be added

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At the end of the story

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Yes, I love the idea of having everyone pregnant at the same time. Oh, that would be so great. I can't wait until it's possible to get the girls pregnant. 

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Ah yes the only game where i kept playing even I've done every main story or update and this can't really get boring, cuz very much everything has interaction, and sometimes i just find my self checking the game and the characters everyday lol or maybe the characters really just made me get attached to them when i read everything that comes out from them. Pretty much this is all i can say for now and i can't wait for the v0.18 update, also wish this game a successful journey of development till it's done i appreciate the game so much i love it.

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Thanks so much :) it means a lot

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One day, i'll beat moon at bowling.

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Hahaha, she can't lose

not true, I managed to bug her out using the rollback feature rapidly and tied her, it still said she won, so I assume that regardless of points the game still puts the moon wins message, but technically I tied her!

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Nice! But yeah, she can't lose. She still didn't lose in that scenario.

Out of all the vn's ive played this one is definitely the longest lol it took me almost 3 months from start to finish. Cant wait for v0.18

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Thanks :)

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11 Gb is too big for phones, Would you consider releasing a smaller apk instead of playing on places like Joiplay?

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Any smartphone should have the storage space built in for 11GB, especially modern phones. It's up to you to make room if you would like. The original size is close to 100GB so it's very compressed.

I need to look more into bypassing the 2GB limit .apk has. But it will never be that small without removing large chunks of the game or reducing the quality so much you can barely tell what you're looking at. It's already compressed by almost 90% so any more is hard.

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I'm confused over the apk limit, most high quality games on mobile nowadays easily exceed  that, I've seen some that were 10 to 20gb. What about developing an apk, and then a separate folder that has the bulk of the game content? Or maybe have the apk have a built in updater that downloads the content in itself, ive seen a couple vn's have that feature after the file size became too large over time

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He is talking about the Renpy engines built in APK builder, which he uses.

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Thats what I meant, building his own apk to bypass the limit.

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I love this game! Do you have any recommendations for other games that you like?

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Hey man I hope everything is okay, Its been a while since your dad passed but I just want to check in and make sure. love your game and I hope you continue to update it

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Thanks for asking.  I'm currently talking to four lawyers for varying things and am in the process of moving to another country. Finding the time to work is really hard, but I hope everything will be handled by summer

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Of course man, don't over do it and take your time. I hope everything goes well

if you don't mind me asking, which country?

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Can you play as a female character?

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You cannot

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My favourite characters now are Nia, Felicity, SLviya, Lin, and emma i cant live without them. 😓 I am dieing Lord Runey 🙏🛐 i hope you have mercy on me and will give atleast  some events more for them. I dont want you to over work , i just feel weird when i hear SLviya and Nia are side character while they get so many interaction and i love it, i just wish they were main girls and had more than 20, 20 personal scenes( i do know that you making 2 routes for both one love and one slave side but it takes too much brain power to switch from showing loving side then switch to make master and harsh treatment side) and it does break story imagination for you as a maker but give freedom to have fun do different things in both route. I love nia too much her eyes, her face, her, looks, the dresses 👗 she wear, i am simping to much for her now, too horny 😐almost same for SLviya. I am not asking for sex scene from Nia or SLviya, i just want to have fun with them going to parks, talking, smiling, being friendly with each other, show Nia specially that humans may be bad to her for a very long time but, we are not like those humans, i wanna hold Nia 💝 😌 and say those things, i know you have that same type of writing already but i hope you focus on their story also 🛐. Emma, felicity, and lin going very good nothing to say extra they have all alot of events and personal events and very big spot light. I hope you focus on a little more romantic side with all characters, like playing games with kali, going more shopping with felicity, um have more sex with ashley?, go show SLviya zoo with alot of creatures she never saw. Maybe more like everyone going to zoo🦒, picnic 🧺, resort.

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He's working on version 0.18 that is in betatesting right now.

If you want to try it in advance, you can subscribe to Patreon for 10$/mont.

And you get any other release in advance too.


BTW, my top 3 is all secondary based. Peni, Nia and Moon.

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Requisitos mínimos en pc?

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If your computer can turn on, it can probably run Harem Hotel

XD no osea cuanto de ram que procesador y toda esa madre :v


I really love this game. I've been playing for months now and will soon reach the end (sad face). Hope the next version comes soon.

No need to introduce new characters in my opinion. There are still enough and it's hard to keep all the storylines in the right order. Too much will just be confusing.

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许多活动报告了错误,像和一个克隆人约会,酒馆报告

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Hello 🤗 👋 God Runey 🙏 🛐 . 

This is my first comment after playing the game for last 2 years. I really loved your game unlike any other i always was never a good visual pic click Japanese-game gamist. But damn i never played a game like this in my life, game has so much life, story, interaction, characters, story building, character building, every character has thier own life problems that they are conquering one by one, game just never ends, gives you a feeling of peace the story doesn't feel rushed nor too much dragged love it ❤️ . The way the game gets attention and makes player decide what to do and give freedom to simp on certain characters for straight days without any problem . Want to say more things but it will take alot of time ⌚. I hope you would read some more comments of mine i have certain things to say maybe it will be long as this and more 

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Thank you, I'm glad you like it :)

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I really love this game, I'm seriously curious to see what Runey brings in the next update. 

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You mean Lord Runey 🙏🛐 right?

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Just Professor is fine

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Why professor lord Runey? 🛐. Shouldn't it be atleast Master Runey🛐? 🙏

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agreed

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Look you damn retard, its all just a joke why calling others a creep? Oh my bad you cant understand a normal joke with community of your own and just saying a game development is a world maker (meaning god)

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Is this game getting any better?

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Meh.  It's been stale for a number of updates.  I've been unable to replay it from version 15's old saves and hold any interest.  IMO, too much new clutter is being added and not enough being done with the loose ends already in the game.  All the hotel girls should have sex scenes by now and actually long before now.  Unfortunately even after 6 years, one still does not.

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Sorry you're not enjoying it. I'm not sure why your saves aren't working. Regarding the content, the story is continuing down the same path and I still plan to add optional side stuff to do like gardening, if that counts as clutter. And as for Autumn, it would make me a worse creator to rush anything out before it's ready. Because Autumn starts as a religious prude, she is harder to get any form of sex from.

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Glad you’re sticking to your guns. A long build-up for one character not only makes sense logically, it also makes for a more diverse and well-rounded story. This is a character driven story and it would be boring if all characters were the same with the same progression.

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Exactly :)

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